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Nintendo can't just create law out of thin air. The DMCA states that single backups of software are legal as long as they are not sold or traded without also including the original copy. If Nintendo said adding a screen protector to their device was prohibited due to being an unauthorized modification to their hardware and would prosecute if you were found to have used one, would you actually be that guy to both never use a screen protector and rat out people using one? Just because Nintendo says something is prohibited doesn't mean we should give a damn. Thats what homebrew is about. I and most people in the homebrew scene don't give a damn what nintendo has to say. We aren't harming their profits by using our own backups they can shove it and spend time going after actual pirates. You're gonna have a hard time convincing the rest of the scene to dump unlaunch just because it has sigpatches even if one without them comes out because nobody else cares. If this wiki actually deletes those pages due to this stupid nuance then I give up on this scene. Nintendo is a bully and will make their own laws if they wish. They did so in Japan but have not in the USA. It is not illegal to backup software, only to distribute. Stop falling for their propaganda
Nintendo can't just create law out of thin air. The DMCA states that single backups of software are legal as long as they are not sold or traded without also including the original copy. If Nintendo said adding a screen protector to their device was prohibited due to being an unauthorized modification to their hardware and would prosecute if you were found to have used one, would you actually be that guy to both never use a screen protector and rat out people using one? Just because Nintendo says something is prohibited doesn't mean we should give a damn. Thats what homebrew is about. I and most people in the homebrew scene don't give a damn what nintendo has to say. We aren't harming their profits by using our own backups they can shove it and spend time going after actual pirates. You're gonna have a hard time convincing the rest of the scene to dump unlaunch just because it has sigpatches even if one without them comes out because nobody else cares. If this wiki actually deletes those pages due to this stupid nuance then I give up on this scene. Nintendo is a bully and will make their own laws if they wish. They did so in Japan but have not in the USA. It is not illegal to backup software, only to distribute. Stop falling for their propaganda
:I do want to be clear: I'm not saying that's a law that Nintendo made, just that this is something that Nintendo considers to be piracy. The wikis are not trying to convince everybody to stop using these things, as that would be unrealistic, but the wiki is still right to not want to break Nintendo's piracy rules. (Also, it turns out there is a patch for the unlaunch installer that keeps it from installing things like sigpatches, so no, getting rid of unlaunch isn't even a thing that's absolutely needed.) [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 04:05, 18 July 2022 (CEST)
:I do want to be clear: I'm not saying that's a law that Nintendo made, just that this is something that Nintendo considers to be piracy. The wikis are not trying to convince everybody to stop using these things, as that would be unrealistic, but the wiki is still right to not want to break Nintendo's piracy rules. (Also, it turns out there is a patch for the unlaunch installer that keeps it from installing things like sigpatches, so no, getting rid of unlaunch isn't even a thing that's absolutely needed.) [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 04:05, 18 July 2022 (CEST)
I'm still confused though on when we've ever cared about nintendos rules on anything unless it actually breaks the law. Why do we care? What exactly is at stake by censoring these topics here? It saves us from nothing, and once again if legality isn't in question but instead morality, then I believe that this place just shouldn't exist if talking about very basic and generally wanted tools for a more robust cfw experience is out of the moral compass of the owners/mods. May I add why Luma3DS and Haxchi/Tiramisu (assuming you follow the wiiu guide which suggests sigpatches) aren't held to the same scrutiny? Why did Atmosphere not including them and Scires being super anal about sigpatches cause everyone to fear them and create this new philosophy with homebrew that "touching the nand is bad?" This really is a non issue that people are making into an issue and tbh I think the other (blank)brew.org sites need to drop some of these rules. Wii.guide has direct instruction on how to install usbloaderGX, so wii/dsibrew is honestly just pushing itself into obscurity with these rules. Once again, I do NOT encourage actual piracy, but the suppression of information on tools due to a barely existant threat of Nintendo enforcing a legally non binding rule for an outdated system is just insanity.