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I'm still confused though on when we've ever cared about nintendos rules on anything unless it actually breaks the law. Why do we care? What exactly is at stake by censoring these topics here? It saves us from nothing, and once again if legality isn't in question but instead morality, then I believe that this place just shouldn't exist if talking about very basic and generally wanted tools for a more robust cfw experience is out of the moral compass of the owners/mods. May I add why Luma3DS and Haxchi/Tiramisu (assuming you follow the wiiu guide which suggests sigpatches) aren't held to the same scrutiny? Why did Atmosphere not including them and Scires being super anal about sigpatches cause everyone to fear them and create this new philosophy with homebrew that "touching the nand is bad?" This really is a non issue that people are making into an issue and tbh I think the other (blank)brew.org sites need to drop some of these rules. Wii.guide has direct instruction on how to install usbloaderGX, so wii/dsibrew is honestly just pushing itself into obscurity with these rules. Once again, I do NOT encourage actual piracy, but the suppression of information on tools due to a barely existant threat of Nintendo enforcing a legally non binding rule for an outdated system is just insanity.
 
I'm still confused though on when we've ever cared about nintendos rules on anything unless it actually breaks the law. Why do we care? What exactly is at stake by censoring these topics here? It saves us from nothing, and once again if legality isn't in question but instead morality, then I believe that this place just shouldn't exist if talking about very basic and generally wanted tools for a more robust cfw experience is out of the moral compass of the owners/mods. May I add why Luma3DS and Haxchi/Tiramisu (assuming you follow the wiiu guide which suggests sigpatches) aren't held to the same scrutiny? Why did Atmosphere not including them and Scires being super anal about sigpatches cause everyone to fear them and create this new philosophy with homebrew that "touching the nand is bad?" This really is a non issue that people are making into an issue and tbh I think the other (blank)brew.org sites need to drop some of these rules. Wii.guide has direct instruction on how to install usbloaderGX, so wii/dsibrew is honestly just pushing itself into obscurity with these rules. Once again, I do NOT encourage actual piracy, but the suppression of information on tools due to a barely existant threat of Nintendo enforcing a legally non binding rule for an outdated system is just insanity.
 
:The DMCA is weird, and Nintendo ''could'' probably have a good chance at DMCAing these sites under the claim that they break DRM. Also, whenever the Switch U (or whatever) is released, it will probably have kernel bugs, but if people aren't using the bugs for piracy, Nintendo may have a slightly smaller chance of caring. If SwitchUBrew banned these things but the other wikis didn't, then it might suggest that SwitchUBrew has an underground network that encourages piracy. A better explanation can be found on [https://hackmii.com/2008/04/thanks-waninkoko/ HackMii] (skip to the paragraph starting with "Piracy is morally wrong"). [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 06:54, 18 July 2022 (CEST)
 
:The DMCA is weird, and Nintendo ''could'' probably have a good chance at DMCAing these sites under the claim that they break DRM. Also, whenever the Switch U (or whatever) is released, it will probably have kernel bugs, but if people aren't using the bugs for piracy, Nintendo may have a slightly smaller chance of caring. If SwitchUBrew banned these things but the other wikis didn't, then it might suggest that SwitchUBrew has an underground network that encourages piracy. A better explanation can be found on [https://hackmii.com/2008/04/thanks-waninkoko/ HackMii] (skip to the paragraph starting with "Piracy is morally wrong"). [[User:Hallowizer|Hallowizer]] ([[User talk:Hallowizer|talk]]) 06:54, 18 July 2022 (CEST)
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While I disagree on the likelihood of the threat, you do bring up a very fair point and I'll give you that. I'd be quite frankly appalled if nintendo actually decided to go after the (blank)brew websites due to us talking about these programs but nintendo is very unfair and quite frankly is willing to break the law to get their way so once again I'll give you that.
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