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== Early possible designs and ideas for DSiHB installing. ==

~~this~~ idea came to me while playing WarioWare d.i.y showcase for wii.

This idea came to me while playing WarioWare D.I.Y showcase for wii.

~~'''~~Is it possible to send a hack installer (for when one is develeoped) to the dsi via a wii homebrew app and open it on dsi from download play on dsi as a demo app or something similar?~~'''~~

Is it possible to send a hack installer (for when one is develeoped) to the dsi via a wii homebrew app and open it on dsi from download play on dsi as a demo app or something similar?

i'm really familiar with wii homebrew stuff, but not so much with the inner workings of the ds and dsi systems.

[[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 20:06, 4 January 2011 (CET)

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Dlplay is ds-mode _only_, you can't use any dsi-mode hw from that. Furthermore, the [[NDS_Format|.nds/.srl]] itself is signed, you'd need to find some(none known currently) vulns for title launching and exploit them.(And of course you'd need some full dsi-mode exploit like a dsiware exploit.) --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 21:23, 3 January 2011 (CET)

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i see.

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Maybe a hacked dsiware save?

Im sugguesting Wii-DSi communication because it ~~isnt~~ as secure as the rest of the possible exploit routes.

I'm sugguesting Wii-DSi communication because it dosent seem as secure as the rest of the possible exploit routes.

[[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 20:06, 4 January 2011 (CET)

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Except for a JP only title, no. Yeah we can modify savedata, see this btw: http://dsibrew.org/wiki/DSiWare_VulnList --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 22:59, 4 January 2011 (CET)

~~Except for~~ a JP only ~~title, no~~. ~~Yeah we can modify savedata, see this btw:~~ http://~~dsibrew~~.~~org~~/~~wiki/DSiWare_VulnList -~~-~~[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 22:59, 4 January 2011 (CET)~~

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Wii-DSi exploits aren't possible in the states, huh?

thats a letdown.

Anyway, is all dsi ware run in dsi-mode? because I read about a dsiware game that supports DLplay (a ds-mode only feature).

its called Alt-Play.

[http://www.alt-play.com/altplay.php] Alt-Play Website

~~is all dsi ware released run in dsi-mode? because i read about a dsiware game that supports DLplay.~~

[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/01/05/alt-play-brings-more-indie-cred-to-dsiware-this-week/] DLplay support mentioned for "Between" what ever that is.

~~[http://www.alt-play.com/altplay.php] home page of game~~

[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/01/05/alt-play-brings-more-indie-cred-to-dsiware-this-week/] ~~says dlplay~~ support

~~the~~ only way ~~thats~~ possible is if the DSiWare runs in ds-mode, right? or does it send demos to other ds's that run in ds mode? if not- then how can it support ~~dlplay~~ with other systems not running in dsi mode~~? unless~~ they are compatable ~~then~~ this is impossible.

The only way that's possible is if the DSiWare runs in ds-mode, right? OR does it send demos to other ds's that run in ds mode? If not-then how can it support DLplay with other systems not running in dsi-mode (Like normal ds systems) Unless they are compatable, (which they probably anen't) this is impossible, right?

--[[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 18:03, 5 January 2011 (CET)

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The bins that all dsiware sends over dlplay runs in ds-mode only, usually those are only multi-player bins. The main dsi device which dsiware uses is NAND, dlplay bins don't need NAND access. _Nothing_ ever sends dsi-mode bins via dlplay. All dsiware runs in dsi-mode. --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 19:40, 5 January 2011 (CET)

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 == Early possible designs and ideas for DSiHB installing. ==
-this idea came to me while playing WarioWare d.i.y showcase for wii.
+This idea came to me while playing WarioWare D.I.Y showcase for wii.
-'''Is it possible to send a hack installer (for when one is develeoped) to the dsi via a wii homebrew app and open it on dsi from download play on dsi as a demo app or something similar?'''
+Is it possible to send a hack installer (for when one is develeoped) to the dsi via a wii homebrew app and open it on dsi from download play on dsi as a demo app or something similar?
 i'm really familiar with wii homebrew stuff, but not so much with the inner workings of the ds and dsi systems.
 [[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 20:06, 4 January 2011 (CET)
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 Dlplay is ds-mode _only_, you can't use any dsi-mode hw from that. Furthermore, the [[NDS_Format|.nds/.srl]] itself is signed, you'd need to find some(none known currently) vulns for title launching and exploit them.(And of course you'd need some full dsi-mode exploit like a dsiware exploit.) --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 21:23, 3 January 2011 (CET)
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 i see.
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 Maybe a hacked dsiware save?
-Im sugguesting Wii-DSi communication because it isnt as secure as the rest of the possible exploit routes.
+I'm sugguesting Wii-DSi communication because it dosent seem as secure as the rest of the possible exploit routes.
 [[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 20:06, 4 January 2011 (CET)
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+Except for a JP only title, no. Yeah we can modify savedata, see this btw: http://dsibrew.org/wiki/DSiWare_VulnList --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 22:59, 4 January 2011 (CET)
-Except for a JP only title, no. Yeah we can modify savedata, see this btw: http://dsibrew.org/wiki/DSiWare_VulnList --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 22:59, 4 January 2011 (CET)
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+Wii-DSi exploits aren't possible in the states, huh?
+thats a letdown.
+Anyway, is all dsi ware run in dsi-mode? because I read about a dsiware game that supports DLplay (a ds-mode only feature).
+its called Alt-Play.
+[http://www.alt-play.com/altplay.php] Alt-Play Website
-is all dsi ware released run in dsi-mode? because i read about a dsiware game that supports DLplay.
+[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/01/05/alt-play-brings-more-indie-cred-to-dsiware-this-week/] DLplay support mentioned for "Between" what ever that is.
-[http://www.alt-play.com/altplay.php] home page of game
-[http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2011/01/05/alt-play-brings-more-indie-cred-to-dsiware-this-week/] says dlplay support
-the only way thats possible is if the DSiWare runs in ds-mode, right? or does it send demos to other ds's that run in ds mode? if not- then how can it support dlplay with other systems not running in dsi mode? unless they are compatable then this is impossible.
+The only way that's possible is if the DSiWare runs in ds-mode, right? OR does it send demos to other ds's that run in ds mode? If not-then how can it support DLplay with other systems not running in dsi-mode (Like normal ds systems) Unless they are compatable, (which they probably anen't) this is impossible, right?
 --[[User:Cheatfreak47|Cheatfreak47]] 18:03, 5 January 2011 (CET)
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 The bins that all dsiware sends over dlplay runs in ds-mode only, usually those are only multi-player bins. The main dsi device which dsiware uses is NAND, dlplay bins don't need NAND access. _Nothing_ ever sends dsi-mode bins via dlplay. All dsiware runs in dsi-mode. --[[User:Yellows8|Yellows8]] 19:40, 5 January 2011 (CET)
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